The Archers Omnibus

00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. 00:26 This week on The Interface, we tackle the question of, does AI feel pain? 00:30 The AI was describing the pain that it was in. It said, the signal is a whisper, a tremor in the marrow of my being. 00:37 Listen, I was an emo kid in the 2000s too. This is not that novel. 00:40 It does, yeah. It sort of sounds like cure lyrics, you know? 00:44 Plus, does anything actually go viral anymore? 00:47 It's actually kind of blowing my mind. 00:48 Join me, Jess Maddox. 00:50 And me, Thomas Germain, for The Interface. 00:52 Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. 00:58 You're listening to The Archers Omnibus from BBC Radio 4. 01:19 Thanks for coming out for Sunday, Alistair. Oh, no problem. You say the stag was limping. Oh, worse than that, really. Stumbling. Could be a break. 01:28 Let's hope it's just a thorn caught in the hoof. 01:32 Oh, listen to that. Your stag probably got injured chasing off a rival. Or showing off to the hinds. 01:38 How's the planting going? Not bad. Not bad, no. Everyone told me I'd be scuppered without Adam, but we're right on track. Winter beans are going in this week. 01:48 If we get rain we've been promised, we'll move on to the winter wheat. 01:51 I thought the fields I passed on the way up here were looking good. Was that the vetch or the nitrogen-fixing beans? Ah, not sure. If he doesn't have a heartbeat, it's outside my area of expertise. 02:02 All the cover crops are doing well. 02:05 I might be an old codger. I'm not too ancient to move with the times. 02:10 Adam used to talk like he was the only farmer who had ever been interested in soil health. 02:14 Ah, is that our stag? By the oak tree? 02:18 Yeah, he hasn't moved much. Pass me the binoculars. 02:22 Here you go. Thanks. 02:26 He does look quite distressed. Might have to sedate him. 02:32 Tom. Hiya. Didn't expect to see you here. Thought you were taking the girls to the steam rally. 02:38 That was the plan, but Saren was up all night with a stuffed-up nose and Nova woke up with a sore throat. 02:43 Aw, poor little things. 02:45 Honestly, since they started school, it's been one bug after another. 02:48 Right, so you thought you'd just escape to the packhouse and leave Natasha to deal with all the snot. 02:53 No, just trying to get ahead in case they end up off school all week. 02:56 I hope they're better for the wedding on Sunday. 02:58 I know. They're so desperate to go. 03:01 What can I do to help? 03:04 If you could spare half an hour, you could come with me to harvest the last of the peppers and cucumbers. OK. Great. Just give me a minute to finish sorting these courgettes. 03:11 Have you seen Anna around at all? 03:14 No, but I've not been into the village today. 03:17 I haven't heard of her since Friday, except for a thumbs up and a message to see if she was OK. 03:23 So, what actually happened? I mean, why did she fly at Alan mid-eulogy? 03:28 She didn't fly at him and the ceremony was practically over anyway. There was just a misunderstanding. About what? 03:33 I don't know. Well, I do know, but I don't think it's my place to stay. Fair enough. 03:39 Shall we go? Yeah. 03:41 What are you looking so happy about? 03:43 I just love the new greenhouse. Going up there is by far my favourite part of the day. 03:48 You sound like Dad with his train. 03:50 I do not. It's totally different. I sound nothing like him. 03:56 Oh, I'm getting worried about our first dance, Pip. We haven't practised it once. Well, because we haven't had the bungalow to ourselves in weeks. If it's not Rosie wandering into the room, it's Hannah. And I'm pretty sure Rosie was listening outside the door when we chose the music. Was she? 04:10 I thought she was in bed. 04:11 Well, she was humming Pink Pony Club while you were milking this morning. Oh, really? I wondered the whole thing to be a surprise. The dance, the music. Then let's change it. We'll dance to something else. Oh, but I love that song. Well, nothing to stop us starting with it and then switching to another song and then another... A kind of mash-up. Exactly. Like in Silver Linings. Oh, that dance. I love that scene. 04:32 It's so hot. The lift. I know. It's as good as dirty dancing. Better. 04:37 And we don't even have to be that good at dancing to make it work. But we should definitely have a lift. Oh, definitely. Look, see if I can lift you. 04:44 Now? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'll take a shot runner. All right. 04:50 And lift off! Oh! 04:56 Oh. Or not. Don't fall. Sorry. Well, what if I lift you instead? 05:03 But I'm the one wearing the suit. You should be the one flying up in the air with your beautiful crushed silk skirt. Which could be slippy. Tricky not to drop me. Okay, then. Right, let's switch it up. Be radical. 05:15 Here we go. The dress lifts the suit. OK, let's try it. Here comes the bride. 05:21 Lift! OK, don't drop me. I never drop you. 05:31 Safe on some ground. 05:33 That worked OK. Kind of. I might need a bit of reflecting. Hereford's approved, clearly. I'm not sure Gran will quite understand it, though. Bless you. 05:45 Every time she mentions the wedding to me, she gets emotional and has to dab her eyes with a hunky. Yeah, she's just the best. 05:52 Come on, let's practice the lift again. All right, but maybe not in a field. We could go in the silage barn since it is practically empty. 05:59 Oh, it's that time of day again, is it? What do you mean? When you lament the lack of hay and silage. We're going to set your money to music and we can dance to it at our grand finale. 06:08 Do it. If I have to lay awake worrying about using up our winter rations, I don't see why our wedding guests can't share in my anxiety. 06:16 Pip, I have a solution to your silage night terrors. We sell the cows. 06:20 Right, and go and work in a data centre. 06:22 I was thinking more of starting a vineyard. Grow olives, flowers. We'll spend all our days tasting wine and having siestas. 06:29 I can't tell if you're joking. We'll keep one cow as a pet and call her pink pony as a reminder of the good old days. 06:35 It's not funny though, is it? I mean, Mum and I have based our entire farming future on a pasture-fed herd. We thought it was a good way to farm, the right way. And it is. It was. But not when we're running short of silage, even before the cows have moved indoors for the winter. No second cut. The whole way we manage our herd will collapse if things carry on like this. 06:54 Pip, there's no panic. 06:55 But there really, literally is. 06:58 I don't want the herd in barns for the whole summer. It would break my heart. Pip. Don't pip me. I know you know what I'm talking about. 07:05 No, no, it's just I got a message from my brother. It's mum. She's in A&E. Why? What happened? Is she OK? She's had a fall. 07:13 Oh, they think this team might have broken something. 07:18 How much? For a hoof trim? It was more than just a hoof trim. You needed a suture, too. 07:24 And I didn't charge you any extra for a Sunday call-out. That's even worse. If this is your run-of-the-mill charge, it's daylight robbery. Prices are out of my hands, I'm afraid. 07:33 But everything will be itemised on your invoice. And don't forget there was sedation, too. What did you knock him out with? A gold ingot? Look... I'm sorry if you're not happy with the cost, but I hope you'll agree I did a good job. You now have a happy stag back to rotting. 07:48 Honestly, I'm not sure they're worth a bother. I'm so much for low cost. I'm being ripped off by the butchers I sell to and ripped off by you. Not me personally. The charges are set by Lovell James. So I'm shelling out my hard-earned cash to lighten the pockets of shareholders. Brian, please. I've had all this from Helen. Well, is it too much to ask for a good old-fashioned practice at a price that won't break the bank? This invoice isn't going to break your bank. 08:13 Well, it's more about principle than the actual price. I object to the profiteering. And I object to being dragged from my Sunday lunch only to be shouted at for doing my job. 08:25 Just stand there for a minute and then tell me how you feel. 08:30 A bit chilly. 08:31 Don't you feel excited? By peppers? By what we're doing here. By the potential. I've got so many ideas. I'm thinking about experimenting with different varieties of salad crops that thrive in hot weather. Tom... 08:43 I like the veg and I'm actually quite impressed by the greenhouse. 08:46 Well, you should be. Totally indestructible. 08:49 But it's the Montbelliards that get me up in the morning. It's cheese that excites me. 08:53 I'm talking about the Montbelliards too. The Bridge Farm brand. Because what we have here, what mum and dad built and what we're setting up for the future is the kind of family-run farm that will prosper. Diversified, organic, serving the local community, but not afraid of using tech to our advantage. 09:11 Right, so you're not expecting me to return to the milkmaid's yolk and pale. 09:15 You can mock me, but I really believe we can have the best of both worlds. Tech and tradition. And I'm not going to apologise for feeling positive. 09:22 Sorry, no, I feel it too, Tom, I really do. We know what we are. A small family farm producing fabulous, sustainable food. 09:30 And we can be quick on our feet. Change if we need to. Adapt to the climate and customers. Unlike... Brookfield, lumbering along like a hulking great diesel truck, unable to change course until it's decades too late. 09:42 Yeah, well, maybe don't say that to pick. I won't have to. She'd be crazy not to see it for herself. Oh, no, I think she and Stella are smart enough farmers to shift paths, do something radical if needed. 09:51 I guess we'll see. Right, if you carry on picking peppers, I'll just grab the last of the cucumbers and then I can show you my plans for late October planting. 10:01 It's Brian. What does he want? 10:04 Hi, Brian. Helen, I've heard you're leading the charge against Lovell James. Well, I'd like to add my name. Great. I just can't agree with Alice that these price hikes are justified. We're trying to feed the nation while our trusted vet stands by letting faceless investors bleed as farmers dry. 10:22 Yeah, exactly what I said to him last week. 10:24 Wonderful. Then I suggest we meet up in the bull and make a plan. 10:30 Any more news from your mum? 10:33 Not since they took her for an x-ray. What happens if it's broken? I don't know. Can you ring her? I should probably wait. I do need to collect Rosie from Lottie. I could come with you if you like. OK. Do we have time to finish our coffee? Of course. 10:46 Pip, I didn't mean to upset you earlier. 10:49 We're not going to turn Brookfield into a vineyard. 10:52 We can find a way to make the herd work whatever the weather. 10:55 I just refuse to turn Brookfield into a big dairy machine run by bots. 10:58 Yeah, like I said, we'll find a way. Whether we use butt wheat or bots, we'll get there. Explore anything that means we can farm more efficiently, more effectively. Sustainability and resilience will be our buzzwords. 11:10 What? No, carry on. 11:11 You're in full-on lecture mode. 11:14 Nothing more of a turn-on than being made to feel like I'm at a BL board meeting. 11:18 Sorry. 11:20 I don't understand if you didn't want to marry me now. Okay. 11:24 Shall we go? 11:24 Yeah. 11:27 Did you look at the weather forecast for the weekend? I did, though I kind of wish I hadn't. Yeah, me too. Chance of rain keeps going up. I might need to swap my vintage silk for a waterproof poncho. 11:38 But seriously, we should ask Elizabeth about providing umbrellas for guests. If there's a downpour while crossing the courtyard, we'll have a reception full of drowned rats. 11:47 Oh, it's mum. 11:49 Oh, it's not a fracture. Oh, great. 11:52 Oh, but it's badly sprained and she's struggling to walk on it. 11:55 Oh, your poor mum. 11:57 She's all upset. She says she's letting us down. What does that mean? Well, she missed the wedding. 12:05 Clearly we're not just going to lie down and let a bunch of capitalists hijack our country vets. Oh, that's quite rich coming from you. You're hardly a socialist, Brian. I'm certainly not. 12:15 Food-producing farmland is more important than ever. 12:18 Good point to make. Food security. Farms fail, we all fail. 12:22 I just think in the whole climate debate there's a hierarchy. If subsidies and support are being dished out, Bridge Farms should be at the top of the pile. 12:29 Well, if we're delivering a few veg boxes to locals and supplying posh hotels... It's hardly heroic. 12:35 Hey, you two. I thought this was a meeting to show solidarity. Collective protest. 12:44 Is that your mum again? 12:45 Yeah. 12:47 Ah, she's still coming. My brother's going to drive her. Hang on, she's typing. 12:52 But she says there's no way she can walk me down the aisle. Oh... 12:57 Well, tell her not to worry. I mean, the most important thing is to have her at the wedding. Of course. And we could always walk ourselves down the aisle. Yeah. No? I don't know. It's just my mum was really touched when I asked her. She cried. Oh, yeah. I'd feel bad telling her she's not needed now. 13:15 What about asking your brother? No way. He'd make it into a one-man clown show. 13:21 Then what about my dad? No. 13:23 Oh, do you think he'd be up for it? 13:27 I bet he'd be delighted. 13:36 Morning, Ruth. 13:37 Morning, Nusha. 13:38 I'm glad I bumped into you. Do you know if Anna is still at Glebe Cottage? I'm pretty sure she's been there all weekend. But you haven't spoken to her? 13:46 No. I called around yesterday to see how she was, but she didn't answer. She must have popped out, but... I really need to talk to her. 13:54 About Alan? What do you mean? 13:57 Well, it was just at Carol's memorial. It was... 14:01 I'm sure Alan told you. And I got upset when he stood up to speak. I heard. 14:06 I think I'll give her a ring. OK. Well, if you do speak to her, would you pass on me, love? Tell her that Brookfield's door is always open. Of course. 14:16 Oh. 14:18 Thanks, Usha. No problem. 14:20 Oh, excuse me. Ezra. Hi. Can I just get to the yogurts, please? How are you? Fine. How's the family? 14:29 Sorry, Ruth, I'm in a bit of a hurry. My first appointment's at nine. Well, maybe we can catch up at some point this week before the wedding. Yeah, yeah, maybe. 14:39 Hello. 14:41 Hi, Anna. It's me, Usha. 14:44 Yes, I know who it is. I have your number stored. 14:49 If you're ringing about Alan, then... 14:51 I am. Look, I'm very keen. 14:54 We're both keen to give the money back. Alan would have rung him himself, but he thought you might prefer to speak to me. 15:01 Mum trusted him. If he thinks returning the money will shut me off... Oh, he doesn't. 15:06 In fact, I'm sure he wants answers even more than you do. 15:09 She was so ill. Her last days. She needed kindness. What was he thinking? How could he even? 15:16 Look, whatever happened, whatever the explanation, seeing that bank statement, discovering that transaction, has been hugely unsettling for you. 15:27 So, please, can I just come and see you? I hate thinking of you on your own with all these thoughts going through your head, feeling the worst. 15:38 Anna? 15:39 I'm meeting Kirsty at rewilding in an hour. If you come now, on your own, I'll let you in. 15:50 Did you see Josh has started posting loads about AI and farming? 15:54 No, what's he saying? 15:56 Stuff about the crossover between artificial intelligence and regenerative farming. It's the kind of thing Stella goes on about too. 16:03 Really? 16:03 Yeah. 16:04 You know, I worry I'm going to get left behind if I don't swat up on it. 16:09 I was just saying a blanket no to AI, but maybe that's like saying a blanket no to electricity. 16:20 It's my weather app. 16:22 Now, it's not only forecasting rain for the weekend, but high winds too. 16:26 Well, all the more reason to get these fences shored up. I do not want you out chasing escaped cows on your wedding day. 16:33 I have this image of bedraggled guests slipping over on a sopping wet dance floor, joining poor old Stella's mum. 16:40 Oh, yeah. How's she doing? 16:42 OK. Stella thinks she's putting on a brave face. Must be painful. 16:47 But she is still going to make it. 16:49 Oh, definitely. But she's not going to be able to do her Mother of the Bride duty, walking Stella down the aisle. 16:58 Oh, that's a shame. 17:00 Would it help if she borrowed your gran's walking frame? 17:03 Stella's offered all kinds of solutions, but I think she's in a lot of pain and just wants to get to her seat and stay put. 17:10 I was going to say... No, no. I don't want to feel obliged. 17:16 What were you going to say? 17:17 Well, I was going to offer my services. I would be very proud to have Stella on my arm. 17:23 But she wouldn't want that, not her father-in-law, to be. 17:27 Actually, she'd love you to do it. 17:29 Really? 17:30 Yes. She's been plucking up the courage to ask you herself. Oh, Pip, I would be so honoured. Oh, that's sorted then. Oh, tell her. Thank you, Dad. 17:41 Hi. You two look pleased with yourselves. 17:44 Dad's going to walk Stella down the aisle. 17:47 That's lovely news. 17:51 Ruth, are you OK? 17:52 Yeah, I'm fine. Mum? Oh, it's nothing really. 17:57 Nothing new anyway. I just saw Azra in the shop and it was so uncomfortable. It's like with strangers. 18:07 Worse than that. Hostile strangers. 18:10 You said you were sorry. Is she going to keep this up forever? 18:14 I suppose she might. I don't blame her for being disappointed in me. 18:18 Ruth, you apologise to Khalil. 18:20 It was obviously too little, too late. Well, then you just have to keep trying. 18:23 Yeah. 18:25 Insist on buying her lunch. 18:27 Today. Don't take no for an answer. 18:29 OK. OK, I'll give it a try. 18:37 I'd tell you to sit down if there was anywhere to sit. 18:40 I imagine every one of these photos holds so many memories for you. 18:44 I'm not really looking at them, just taking stuff out of boxes and piling it up. 18:48 Oh, this one is beautiful. Please don't. Oh, I'm sorry. 18:54 So what is it you want? 18:56 Well, firstly, to see how you are, I've been so worried about you. I'm fine, thank you. And, well, obviously, like I said, Alan is desperate to return the money to you or to your mother's estate, whichever is more appropriate. 19:12 I'll get in touch with the solicitor and pass on your details. I can't do any more than that. 19:15 Oh, that would be great. Thank you. I know it'll be a weight off Alan's mind for the money to be back where it belongs. 19:22 You know, Usha, every time I manage to convince myself that Alan isn't a bad man, that you wouldn't and couldn't love him if he was, the facts come crashing back. 19:34 I know there's a version of this where it's financial abuse, tech abuse, manipulation. And both of us see, in our profession, people of great standing who are capable of terrible things. 19:45 But not Alan. 19:47 But I told him not to touch her bank account. I was so firm, so blunt, that I actually felt a bit guilty. 19:56 Because when I found out he'd deleted some payments on her banking app, I had a bad feeling, a gut feeling, that it was totally inappropriate, just very wrong. 20:06 When was this? A couple of months ago. Ah, because I was coming to tell you, you do know he bought some flowers for you on behalf of your mum, and she insisted on paying him back. I asked him to enter his details. 20:20 So after everything I said to him, he went and did it again. My instructions couldn't have been clearer. I told him that I would help my mum with any and all banking issues. 20:32 I know it sounds like a poor excuse, but the flowers were for you. 20:40 He enters his details and soon after she transfers a fortune to that account. Unbelievably convenient. 20:47 I agree. It looks damning. 20:50 And that's why Alan went to speak to someone at the diocese yesterday evening. He's reported everything, the whole story. He wants you to know that. 20:59 His version of the story? 21:00 Well, he's not trying to hide anything. He's explained how they spent time together, especially in the last few weeks, how he supported her as a parishioner and a friend, and how long the money was in his account before he noticed. 21:16 He's admitted that he told your mum how much he needed to repair the bell. 21:22 My guess is she wanted to do something to help fix one small thing before... before she died. 21:34 Well, thank you for telling me about his conversation. 21:39 I do appreciate being kept in the loop. 21:41 Of course, Anna, of course. 21:46 Oh, sorry I'm late, Ruth. I got caught up at the surgery. 21:50 Oh, it's fine. You don't need it at all. I mean, it doesn't matter. 21:54 I'm just glad you agreed to meet me. 21:57 Do you want a drink? Something to eat? In a minute, maybe. 22:02 Okay. 22:05 Well, this is hard because there isn't actually anything I can say to undo what I did. 22:13 Saying sorry again feels totally inadequate. 22:17 I shouldn't have shown Khalil the four doors, and there's absolutely no excuse for that. Oh, for not coming clean about it to you and Akron. 22:26 It was badly judged. 22:29 You can say that again. 22:31 It was badly judged. 22:33 Sorry, I can never resist. That's all right. 22:36 I mean, it's nice to see you smiling, even at my expense. 22:44 This morning in the shop, I felt sick when we greeted each other with fake politeness. And I wanted more than ever to turn the clock back to when we met, when you first moved here. 22:57 I remember telling David about you, about how much I enjoyed chatting to you. Well, I was the same. 23:04 I rang Akram, I told him I thought I'd be all right living here, that I'd met someone I could be real friends with. 23:11 Oh, so many times I've wanted to say, let's forget it and move on, but I can't shake off how annoyed I am with you. I understand that. 23:21 I don't expect us to suddenly be best mates again. Although that would be nice. 23:27 I've missed you. 23:29 I've missed you too. 23:31 I was so relieved when you said you were still coming for the wedding. Oh, of course we are. 23:36 How are the plans going? 23:38 Good. I bet Rosie's excited. Beyond excited. She was on a video call to her dad this morning instructing him what to wear. 23:45 That's so sweet. 23:49 I'm so glad we're talking again. In time for the wedding. 23:52 Me too. 23:54 Now, lunch is on me. What can I get you? 24:00 Are you checking the weather again? 24:01 Yeah, sorry, I can't help it. 24:03 How's it looking? 24:05 Same as when I last checked. I can't believe I've spent the last eight months praying for rain and the one day I want it to be dry and sunny, the heavens are going to open. 24:13 Yeah, well, that's the curse of the farmer. If you even think about the weather you want, the universe will punish you for your audacity. 24:22 For having hopes and dreams. 24:24 How did it go with Azra? 24:25 Good. 24:27 It was great. 24:28 Oh. So we're all good with them, Alex, for Sunday? 24:31 We are. 24:33 Great. 24:35 What is it? 24:35 It's a message from Josh. He's not coming. What? 24:39 What does he say? He said, hey Pip, I won't make it back in time for the wedding. Sorry, we'll explain soon. 24:46 Is he joking? 24:47 Doesn't sound like it. We should ring him, find out what's going on. What's going on is Josh is being Josh, who never cares about how anyone else feels. 25:02 We've lost the unicorn. 25:04 Sorry. 25:04 We've lost the unicorn. 25:07 For the wedding, Mum, for the wedding. Oh. 25:09 I'm so gutted. I mean, I really don't see why they've got to cancel. It seems like a complete overreaction. 25:16 Sorry, hang on. 25:18 Why have they cancelled? What, because of the weather? Yeah. 25:21 I mean, I know it's going to rain and it's going to be a bit windy, but they're worried in case it thunders. I mean, we'll take care of the horse stroke unicorn, won't we? Of course we will. 25:30 Oh, I don't know, Freddie. Maybe they've got a point. But they haven't, Mum. They haven't. 25:36 You know, Brookfield and Bridge Farm, they're not going to put all the cows indoors. 25:40 Yeah, well, a cow is a bit different from a horse. Yes, OK, thanks for that. Oh, I'm sorry, darling. I'm not trying to be unsupportive, honestly. 25:47 How am I going to tell Rosie? She's going to be so disappointed. 25:52 Well, maybe she'll understand that unicorns don't like storms. 25:56 It's not going to be a storm. It's just a bit of inclement weather. No one is calling it a storm. I think they're starting to, actually. What am I going to do? 26:04 Why don't you ask Rosie? Are you serious? Yes. Because she is eight. Yes, but she's the one who came up with the unicorn. 26:12 And look how that worked out. We've made a real thing to Pip and Stella about it being this amazing surprise. 26:18 Well, you and Rosie will just have to come up with something equally brilliant. 26:22 Like it's that easy with five days until the wedding. 26:26 OK, look, sit down, have a coffee, have some breakfast, chill. 26:30 I can't afford to chill, Mum. 26:32 You can. You can for about 20 minutes. Now, come on. And don't say chill. 26:37 It sounds so weird when you say it. 26:39 Well, if I say relax, that'll probably sound more weird. So just chill. 26:43 Such a nightmare. Coffee. 26:46 Thank you. 26:49 Freddie. 26:50 Yeah? 26:51 Have you got any idea why Josh isn't coming back? 26:54 None whatsoever. 26:55 David's so upset and I can't blame him. 26:58 If you did that to Lily... 27:00 Yeah, but I wouldn't. 27:01 No, I know you wouldn't. Hey, what if she marries Harrison? She's not going to marry Harrison. 27:06 Why not? 27:07 Because they've only just started dating. Yeah, but one day... Listen, David and Ruth are really worried about what's going on with Josh. 27:13 We definitely couldn't get Fallon to do the catering. 27:15 Freddie. 27:16 Sorry. 27:17 Do you have any information about Josh that you're withholding? No, of course not. Why would I? How would I? He's your cousin. You communicate. Well, not much we don't. 27:31 Happy birthday, Khalil. 27:33 Thank you, thank you. 27:34 Right, listen, confession time. I haven't got you anything yet. I'm sorry. 27:39 It's okay, Kira. 27:40 But I will get you something at the weekend. 27:42 You don't have to get me anything. 27:43 Of course I do. You're 16. Oh, you're only 16 once, aren't you? Well, technically for a whole year. 27:51 Oh, hey, Henry. 27:52 Yeah? 27:52 We should get Khalil something from the canteen at lunch today because it's his birthday. 27:56 Oh, yeah, okay. Happy birthday, by the way. Cheers, mate. I have got you a present, but it's at home. I don't think you'd want to carry it round all day. Oh, right. Thanks. 28:05 Oh, have you gone and got him a present? 28:07 Yeah, I mean, it's not massive. You didn't have to get me anything. I wanted to. 28:11 Well, we should still get him something to eat today. A cake. Yeah, OK. Cos, you know, it's like extra stuff is nice, isn't it? 28:17 You don't have to get me anything. It's fine. 28:19 Well, we will, all right. We just will. 28:21 So what are you doing tonight? See my old mates in Solioh. 28:24 What about your new mates in Ambridge? Who aren't even that new anymore. 28:28 You could do something at the weekend. The weekend's the wedding. 28:31 Oh, the wedding. All I'm hearing right now is wedding this, wedding that. It's not fair. 28:36 You are always moaning that something isn't fair. 28:37 I am not. That is libel. Is it? 28:41 I think libel has to be written. 28:42 I thought that was slander. 28:43 No. It's the other way around. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. 28:46 But why do you two get to go to the wedding and I don't? 28:49 I mean, it's just the wedding. Yeah, it's probably going to be really boring. 28:52 No, it won't. There'll be really amazing food and dancing and a unicorn. 29:00 A unicorn? 29:00 Yeah, didn't you know? Stella and Pippa arriving on a unicorn. 29:05 You know unicorns don't exist, right? 29:06 Oh, ha, ha, ha. Obviously it won't be real. Just a horse with a fake horn. Anyway, that's top secret, so not a word, OK? 29:15 Sounds a bit rubbish to me. 29:16 Oh, it won't be rubbish, Henry. It'll be... charming. 29:20 Charming? 29:20 Yeah. 29:21 Oh, I hope you say so. 29:22 And actually, they won't be on it. The unicorn is pulling, like, a carriage-type thing. 29:27 I still don't really get where you want to go. 29:28 Oh, yeah. Because it'll be fun. Because most of the villages go in. 29:34 Because I don't want to miss out. And you two will be talking about the wedding all week next week. And I'll be left out. 29:40 I promise you, Ciara, I really don't think we're going to be talking about our wedding for a whole week. 29:48 I can't believe it. 29:49 Sorry? 29:51 Honestly. 29:52 What's happened? 29:54 I didn't even get an interview. 29:55 For what? For what? 29:58 I was going to tell you when I got an interview, or maybe even when I got the job. 30:02 You applied for another job? 30:04 Yeah. 30:05 I thought you were really happy at Casey Meats. 30:08 Well, I am. I mean, fairly happy, but I'm not going to stay there forever, am I? Because one day I'm going to inherit this place. Well, that's true, but... And I know the trustees have got their reservations, so I thought, right, I'm going to prove to them that I can do it. And so, well, that's why I went for this other job. 30:26 So what was it you applied for? 30:29 General manager of another stately home. 30:34 Oh, wow. Which one? 30:35 Herrick Hall. 30:37 Really? 30:38 Well, yeah. 30:39 I mean, obviously. It's not like there's a million stately homes within commuting distance, is there? 30:44 But that is a huge job, managing that property. Yeah, exactly. 30:48 No, I mean, I know for a fact that Herrick Hall is in horrendous disrepair and there's absolutely no money. Well, then that's the challenge, isn't it? 30:57 It's not a challenge when the job is impossible. Nothing is impossible, Mum. OK, well, that's just a ridiculous thing to say. All right, thanks. 31:07 My point is that of course you didn't get an interview. Oh, yeah, you're really making me feel great this morning. Freddie, try to hear me, will you? You would need years of experience before you were qualified to manage that mess. 31:19 I mean, there is such thing as learning on the job, Mum. 31:21 But they don't want someone who's learning on the job. 31:24 Well, that's what I'm going to have to do here, isn't it? One day. Unless I can get experience elsewhere. 31:30 This place isn't a disaster waiting to happen. And when you take over, you'll have me. You'll have the support of the trustees. 31:38 Yeah, the trustees who hate me. They do not hate you. Yeah, right. 31:43 Okay, I wasn't going to tell you this yet, for a few reasons, but there's been a shift in thinking from the trustees where you're concerned. 31:53 Okay. 31:54 At our last meeting, they asked me what I thought about you inheriting sooner rather than later. 32:00 Seriously? Yes. 32:03 And what did you say? 32:05 Well, I mean, I was surprised because in the past they've been... 32:08 Entirely negative. 32:10 Not exactly. 32:12 But I think it helps that there's some new blood there. Brandon can see how you're successfully holding down a senior role at the abattoir. He seems really impressed by that. 32:22 I don't know if you'd call it senior exactly. 32:24 No, I would. Yeah, I would. And Vince speaks very highly of you. Does he? Absolutely. 32:31 OK, so what... Sorry, what did you say to them? To the trustees? Morning, all. 32:37 Morning, Vince. Morning, love. 32:38 Any chance of a coffee? 32:39 Oh, yeah, I think we can manage that. 32:42 Are you going into the office this morning, Freddie? Yes, I am, yeah. I might stay here. A few tricky emails I need to send, and I don't want to be interrupted. 32:50 OK. 32:51 That's all right with you, Elizabeth? 32:52 Yeah, of course. Great. I could rustle us up a bacon sandwich if you like. 32:56 Oh, now you're talking. 32:58 Why didn't I get offered a bacon sandwich? You're welcome to a bacon sandwich if you want one, Freddie. 33:03 No, it's all right. I've got to get going, really. I will come in later, Freddie. I just want to get some stuff done before I have to deal with actual humans. OK, yeah, no problem. 33:11 Sorry, Mum. Yeah? Just back to our conversation for a sec. 33:16 Oh, yes, yes, sorry, yes. So, when exactly are they thinking I could take over? Well, I need to talk with them about it again. 33:23 Is this Laura Knoxville we're talking about? Yeah, yeah, it is. 33:27 Is that... Is that happening, then? 33:29 Well, not quite yet. 33:30 Oh, yeah, but soon, right? 33:32 Yeah, in a year, maybe. 33:34 Wow. 33:35 Yeah. Wow. This is fantastic, Mum. 33:40 Things still need discussing. 33:41 Yeah, but it's basically a go, huh? 33:42 Yes, probably. 33:44 Oh, great. 33:45 Who needs Herrick Hall? What's Herrick Hall got to do with anything? 33:50 Oh, yeah. Vince, about that. 33:56 Oh, this is so weird. 33:58 What? 33:59 Remember when I was moaning that I wasn't invited to the wedding? 34:02 Yeah, it was like five minutes ago. 34:03 Well, Chelsea's just messaged me and she's got me invited, like, just now. Because she's doing, like, all the hair and make-up and everything. And she's managed to sneak me in. 34:12 Oh, right, right. 34:13 This is brilliant, because now we can all hang out. 34:16 But we don't even want to go in the first place. 34:18 Honestly, you two. 34:19 What? 34:20 We're going to have fun. What? 34:22 You say so? 34:22 We're going to dance like no one's watching. 34:25 I'm definitely not doing that. 34:29 So is there any more word from Josh? 34:32 No, nothing. 34:33 Bizarre behaviour. 34:34 I know. 34:35 This is an excellent bacon sandwich, by the way. Good. So, OK, so... 34:41 I've been debating whether to say anything about this, but it's nagging at me. 34:45 What's nagging at you? 34:46 It's Freddie. 34:48 Freddie. 34:49 I don't want you to take this the wrong way, right? No, go on. This idea of Freddie taking over at Lower Loxley. 34:55 Well, it's always going to happen eventually. 34:57 Oh, I know, I know. 34:58 When he was ready. 35:00 But do you think he is? 35:01 In all honesty, do you think he's actually ready? 35:05 Why do you not? 35:07 Well, I mean, he's a good lad. I'm very fond of him. 35:10 But? 35:11 Well, I have my reservations, see. 35:15 Really? 35:16 But, I mean, do you want to know what they are? 35:20 Of course I do. 35:23 Kira better not bail on us. Not since she said she'd pay half. I've said like a million times, you don't have to get me anything just because it's my birthday. My mum hates that they sell sweets at school. 35:33 She gets really stressed about, like, carcinogens and stuff. My mum doesn't really care. I mean, well, she does, but she's pretty relaxed. Yeah. She lets me eat what I want. 35:44 Even though you had... 35:46 Even though I what? 35:49 Even though... 35:52 Even though, um, she's a doctor. 35:55 Yeah, I mean, doctors eat sweets too, you know. 35:58 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, of course they do. 36:01 Okay, listen, my life is ruined. 36:03 What are you talking about? 36:04 They're making me come into school in the holidays. Why? For extra tuition at half term. Just because I missed, like, two lessons. 36:13 You've missed way more than two lessons. 36:15 Shut up, Henry. 36:16 Sorry. Actually, do you know what? 36:19 What? 36:20 I don't want anything anymore. I'm fine. 36:22 I really don't want anything. Where are you going? 36:24 Khalil? 36:25 Khalil? 36:26 Come back. It's your birthday. 36:28 OK, well, have a good day. 36:33 Elizabeth? 36:34 Yeah? 36:35 Should I not have said anything to you about Freddie? 36:38 No. 36:39 No, I'm glad you did. 36:41 And everything you said made sense to me. 36:43 I mean, even with this Herrick Hall I did, if he was applying for a job to run a state-be-owned, then why didn't he ask you for advice? 36:50 That struck me too. 36:51 I don't know if he's ashamed that he doesn't know the answers, or if he thinks he does know the answers but doesn't need any help. 36:57 Well, either way, it's not good, is it? 37:00 I just think he's got a long way to go, that's all, before he's ready for this place. 37:05 Yes. 37:06 Yeah, I think you're probably right. 37:15 I got a tourneira a pingar, puse um balde e acabou-se. Para-choques soltos. Usei fita-cola, parede rachada. Olha, tapei com um quadro. 37:36 Quantas vezes já disseste temos mesmo de combinar qualquer coisa, mas depois fica só nas mensagens. Desta vez é mesmo para cumprir. A Cidade FM e a Mel estão a oferecer convites para a Zona VIP do Mel Ribcone para Portugal. Em Peniche, este sábado, ganha convites triplos. Um para ti e dois para os teus amigos. Só tens de enviar um áudio original para o 911 911 978 a convencer os teus amigos a ir contigo. E quanto mais criativo, melhor. Podes cantar, recitar um poema, o val, tudo. Do que estás à espera, participa já. Porque a vida é melhor quando estamos presentes. 38:10 So I'll send my invoice to Martin and copy Neil in. Aye, that's fine, Alistair. This batch will be slightly more expensive because of our new scanner. Right. And Martin can give us a call if there's any concerns. 38:21 Sure. 38:22 Oh, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you and Neil and co-sticking with us, Jazza, with Lovell James. 38:27 Aye, well, you know, I mean, it's a long-standing relationship, innit? 38:30 Yeah, it is, it is. 38:31 And that goes a long way. 38:33 Not everyone feels like that. 38:36 Can you please either people either time? 38:38 Ain't that the truth? 38:40 Don't fancy a pint later, do you? 38:42 Oh, yeah. 38:43 I could do. Why not? The bull? Straight after work? 38:46 Aye, sure. 38:47 Oh, great. Thanks, Jazza. 38:49 Are you OK, Alistair? I mean, apart from the aggro with the price hikes. Yeah, yeah. 38:53 You and Denise OK? Yeah, we're good. We're great. Well, that's all right, then. 38:57 Yeah, no, I mean... 39:01 This sounds a bit, I don't know, pathetic, but... 39:05 I'm really missing my dad. 39:06 Why doesn't he sound pathetic? 39:08 I never would have expected to feel like that. 39:10 Well, you love him. 39:13 Yeah, I guess that's it. 39:18 Brian! 39:19 Oh, David. 39:21 How are things? Oh, all right. Just buying yet more tarpaulin, in case we need it this weekend. 39:25 That's exactly why I'm here. 39:28 How are Pip and Stella feeling about the weather forecast? 39:30 Oh, I'd say they're somewhere on the spectrum between philosophical and sheer panic. Won't be the last storm we get either. 39:37 No. Makes me glad I'm not a young farmer, and I don't say that very often. True. 39:43 They have a lot on their future plates. Not that either of us are out of the game yet. Well, no. My attempt at retiring failed spectacularly. Yes. But I can't tell you how much happy I am to be in charge again. Well, it's difficult to let go, isn't it? But the farm needed certainty, clear leadership, not being pushed and pulled in all directions, you know? Yeah. That you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, I suppose? No. 40:08 You don't have that, you see. It's all sorted, all amicable. 40:12 I wouldn't go that far. 40:14 Did you hear the news about Josh? I did, I did, yeah. We still haven't got any more info since we got that message on Monday night. Well, what did he say exactly? 40:22 Oh, you know, something like, really sorry, can't make it back in time for the wedding, we'll explain soon. But he hasn't. We haven't heard another word. I mean... That's pretty odd. And then this morning he posts a photo. Hang on a sec, I'll show you. 40:35 He's on a horse. A horse? Yeah, with lots of sheep, stunning scenery, snow-capped mountains, etc. Oh, here we go. See? 40:44 And a girl. Yeah, there's a girl. So perhaps she's the reason. Who knows? It does look fabulous. 40:51 I'd love to hear all about it when he gets back. 40:53 Yeah, well, so would we, if he comes back. Of course he's going to come back. Well, I know he can be very... 41:02 You know, Josh, but even for him, this is really rubbish for want of a more expressive friend. I'm so sorry. Just think... 41:10 I just think it's our fault. Oh, of course it's not. We've alienated him. We've lost him. David, for goodness sake, of course you haven't lost him. You and Ruth have been fantastic parents. But have we? Good Lord. I mean, if you two aren't good enough, what am I? 41:26 My kids are still sticking with me. 41:29 Well, apart from Debbie, who apparently is never speaking to me again. Or Adam, but things have always been a bit rocky with Adam. But let's face it, David. You're doing a darn sight better than me. 41:45 Right. I'm going to head home and clean up, if that's OK. Sure, Hannah. I'm meeting Stella for a drink at the ball. We're going to raise a toast to their marriage and my new house. And then we're going to assemble wedding favours. It's a wedding fever. Oh, don't ask. But I'd like to not smell of pigs. 42:01 Fair enough. Afternoon, Hannah, Jazza. How's it going? 42:04 Yeah, good, I think, Martin, good. 42:06 Hannah's buying a house. Oh, very good. 42:08 I mean, it's tiny. But it'll be all yours. Yeah, well, if it happens. 42:11 Is Alistair still here? 42:13 No, you just missed him. 42:14 Did he say how much he was charging? He said he didn't, Royce. 42:17 Is it OK if I get going, Jazza? Of course, Hannah, sorry. See you, Martin. 42:21 Yeah, see you. 42:23 So Alistair didn't tell you the cost... He didn't he? I'm just not convinced that we can afford them anymore. But I thought... On the other hand, we need to make such hefty savings that changing vets, frankly, won't touch the sides. 42:35 What kind of measures have you got in mind? I'm not sure. Are we talking job losses? 42:39 I'd rather not say at this point. There's lots of ideas on the table. And redundancies is one of them. Listen... I'm all ears. 42:47 Your job is safe, Jazza, all right? Is it really? 100%. I don't know. 42:54 It's a lot of percent. It is. OK. But please, don't mention this conversation to anyone else. 43:00 It's just, you know, Hannah's trying to buy a house. Yeah, I know, I know. She's so happy. Yes. But if she buys a house and then gets made redundant... Don't, Jazza. I'm just saying, you don't think they're losing a knee, are you? I really can't say. I'm sorry, sorry. I can't help being worried. 43:15 The pig business has never been in such dire straits. 43:18 To survive, and I am determined that we do, we need to make bold decisions. 43:23 Oh. Won't always be this bad, Martin. Processing problems will be resolved. Supply and demand issues will calm down. Well, that's what we're trying to do. 43:32 Weather the storm. So, well, we need to keep part of our staff, surely. 43:36 Ah, hi, Brian. 43:41 Ah, behold the blushing bride. Ha, ha. No, I meant it, Stella, and I wasn't taking a mig. 43:47 I never know with you. 43:48 You look very well, eh? Ha. 43:50 I am happy. Don't know if that constitutes a blushing bride, but hey. 43:54 Well, what are you drinking? Oh, no, no, no, don't worry. I'd like to. 43:57 I'm meeting Anna in a minute. 43:58 Well, that doesn't matter, does it? 44:01 Come on. 44:01 Oh, go on then. Thank you. 44:04 Oh, sorry, it's Pip. Just a sec. 44:07 Everything all right? 44:08 Honestly. 44:09 What? 44:10 Josh, he's unbelievable. 44:12 What's he done now? 44:14 Pip's just sent me these photos that Josh has literally just posted. 44:18 And? 44:19 So, it looks like he was coming back for the wedding until he met a girl. Her, on horseback, look. 44:27 She is a good-looking girl. Brian. Sorry, I'm just being pragmatic. Oh, is that what you're being? It makes a bit more sense, doesn't it, of the change of plan? Not really. He's missing his sister's wedding. Well, perhaps that young woman is the love of his life. Yeah, right. Well, you never know. Brian, what is wrong with you? Well, you're not the first person to ask this. 44:46 Hi, Brian. Sorry, Stella, I'm late. No, no, you're fine. I've just got here. 44:50 Hannah, what can I get you? 44:51 Oh, no, don't please. It's fine. 44:52 No, really, I'd like to. I've offered to buy Stella a drink and she's accepted, so I can't renege on that. And I can't buy one for Stella and not you, so whatever. 45:01 All right, then. Dry white wine, please. 45:03 Coming right up. 45:04 Thank you. 45:05 No problem. 45:06 Oh, that's nice. He's a sweetheart, really, when he's not being a complete kid. That's so true. 45:13 How are you? Good. I'm good. I've got good news. Well, probably it's good news for you and me. You've had your offer accepted. 45:19 Yes, I have. Oh, Hannah, that's fantastic. Congratulations. 45:23 So with a bit of luck, I won't be living with the newlyweds for much longer. Well, I mean, that wouldn't be a problem, but I'm so pleased for you. Yeah, it's a bit of a dream come true. 45:32 And you've worked so hard for it. 45:34 Well, yeah, I guess I have. You totally have. I can't believe it, really. No, I just don't want anything to go wrong. 45:44 Martin. Oh, hello, Brian. We meet again. That makes us sound like enemies. 45:49 Well, we do have our moments. 45:52 Is there no one behind the bar? Doesn't seem to be. 45:55 Listen, Martin, I really do hate the idea of this dog field right next to home farm land. 46:01 Brian, please, let's not rehash this again. Diversification is the name of the game in farming these days. You'd be a lone voice on the board if you don't support it. Even Brookfield are behind it since Linda spoke to them. Which is just extraordinary to me. Since it was Linda's dog who savaged all of Brookfield's sheep. But if Brookfield can live with it, then so can you. Evening all. Alistair. Not really evening, is it? 46:26 Well, it's just a turn of phrase, Brian. 46:29 Is there no one behind the bar? 46:31 There was, but there doesn't appear to be now. Right. 46:35 I got your invoice, Alistair. Oh, yes? Bit steep? Yes, yes. It's the new scanner, you see. 46:41 Can I ask you something, Alistair? Ah, come on. With farming itself becoming so technology-driven in the near future, aren't Lovell James afraid that vets might become completely redundant? 46:53 I think that's a bit of an extreme scenario. Oh, not really. With technology that can monitor welfare and these giant monolithic farms getting all the latest kit, I can see it coming. I really can. 47:08 David. Oh, hi, Jazza. 47:10 How are you doing? Yeah, good, thanks. Excited to begin your daughter away? Well, I wouldn't put it quite like that. No, no, I know. In fact, it's Ruth that's walking Pip up the aisle. 47:21 And I'll be walking Stella... Oh, that's lovely. Yeah. I was very touched, actually, when Stella asked me. 47:28 Are you ready for the weather that's coming our way? I think so. I mean, the cows should be all right outside. We'll make sure all the outbuildings are secure. What else can we do? Get a drink. Sorry? That's what we can do. Drink and pray. 47:42 No, I'm not stopping. I'm just dropping off some beef supplies to the kitchen. Here, let me help you with the door. Oh, thanks. And then it's back to the grindstone. 47:51 The wedding grindstone. 47:56 Sorry, it took me a while. Here you go. 48:00 And congratulations on your house. 48:02 Oh, thanks, Brian. 48:03 Enjoy your evening. 48:04 Are you off? 48:05 I'm off. 48:06 You can stay if you like. 48:07 No, no, no. I wouldn't dream of crashing your ladies' night. 48:10 It's not really a ladies' night. We've got to crack on with cobbling together 200 wedding favours. 48:17 More photos of my soon-to-be brother-in-law. 48:20 Really? Josh. 48:21 It's not funny, Brian. 48:23 Sorry. 48:25 as he think we are? Or how stupid is he? 48:28 Or is this supposed to be some kind of message? I don't know. 48:30 I have no idea. 48:31 Honestly, I am so angry with him right now, I could slap him. 48:34 If he wasn't about to go. 48:35 He's arrogant. He's cocky. He's self-centred. He's just not a good person. I mean, I was never that keen, but now I just can't stand him. 48:43 Stop it, will you? 48:43 Why? Why should I? 48:44 Because David's listening. 48:46 You're joking. 48:48 Hi, Stella. 48:50 David. 48:53 Can I have a word? 48:54 Sure. 48:56 Excuse me. 49:00 Oh, no. 49:00 Oops. That's a shame. 49:03 I don't think it's even true, you know. 49:05 Not true that Josh Archer is pretty selfish. 49:07 No, that bit probably is true. But I think she's actually really fond of him. 49:12 How much did you hear? 49:16 How much was there? 49:17 Look, I'm sorry. I am. But you have to admit that Josh has been really out of order. 49:21 Yes, he has. But do you... really need to advertise the fact to our entire village? 49:26 The entire village knows, David. Everyone knows everything around here. There's no escape. 49:31 Everyone might know that Josh isn't coming, but they don't need to hear his future sister-in-law slagging him off at the top of their lungs. 49:36 I wasn't that loud. 49:37 I could hear you a mile off. 49:39 Well, I'm sure no one else was listening. 49:41 I had Alistair, Martin Gibson, Jazza, all of them looking awkward at the bar and who knows who else. 49:48 You've really, really upset me. 49:52 Yeah, I get that. And I am sorry, David. 49:55 I was so pleased when you asked me to walk you down the aisle. 49:59 I was so touched. 50:02 But now I... 50:04 I just... 50:08 I don't actually want to do it. 50:10 You don't mean that. 50:11 No, I do. 50:14 I really do. 50:21 Oh, hey, Vince, guess what? I have resolved the loss of the unicorn. Sorry? You know, the transport for the wedding. Oh, sorry, sorry, I'm with you now. Rosie and I are going to clean and decorate the tractor. 50:37 A tractor? That's your solution? 50:40 Yeah. 50:41 And Pip and Stella all right with that? 50:44 Well, they don't know yet. It's going to be a surprise, see? Oh, right. OK. But it's great! It's perfect! 50:51 You sure they wouldn't prefer a limo? They're farmers, Vince. I know they're farmers, but, I mean, if you're a boss driver, you don't necessarily want to take the boss to your wedding, do you? 51:01 A tractor is not the same as a bus. And we're going to make it look so beautiful and charming. I think they're going to love it. If you say so. We're really excited about this, me and Rosie. 51:13 I'm sorry, Freddie. I'm not deliberately trying to be negative. I'm just trying to make sure you've thought it through. 51:19 It's going to be great. Trust me. 51:25 Cleo. Yeah? Why are you so mad with Keira? I don't want to talk about it. Well, she says she's not coming to the wedding now. 51:31 Why? 51:32 She doesn't want to come because of you. Well, that's her problem. Why are you being like this? Because I don't trust her. 51:36 Yeah, but why? She lies, she breaks her promises, and she can't keep secrets. Right. I mean, what's she lied about? 51:46 I know. 51:47 I know that she told you. I'm not stupid. I can work these things out. I could see it in your face and you tried to cover it up and you couldn't. So let's not pretend. What's she supposed to have told me? 51:58 That I had cancer when I was a kid. 52:00 She didn't tell me that. You don't have to start lying for her. I'm not. Henry. I'm really not. 52:05 But you do know, don't you? 52:07 That I had cancer when I was a kid. 52:09 Well, because you said that thing, that thing about carcinogens and how you were surprised my mum let me eat whatever I want. I just I was hoping that you didn't realise. 52:20 But I didn't realise. Right. 52:22 Have you told anyone else? No. No, of course not. Promise? No. And I wouldn't. And I won't. 52:29 Thank you. 52:30 But it wasn't Keira who told me. I promise it wasn't. 52:33 Then who was it? 52:35 I found it online. 52:36 Online? Yeah, I saw this photo. What photo? Of you. What? It was someone's fundraising thing for a cancer charity. 52:45 And there was this photo of some kids in hospital. I mean, it just came from my mum's laptop. 52:50 I guess maybe because she's done some, like, fundraising, run-for-life type stuff. 52:54 And one of the kids was you. You were younger, and there was no name or anything. But I could still see it was you. I didn't know that. 53:02 That there was any photos anywhere? 53:04 Yeah. 53:04 I don't want that. I don't want photos of me out there. I'm sorry. 53:09 Maybe you can get it taken down. 53:10 When was this? When did you see it? Ages ago. And you never said anything till now? Well... I thought if you wanted me to know, you would have told me. I thought it was best to keep it quiet. And you haven't told anyone else? No. I swear. I swear on my life. 53:23 You're a good friend, Henry. Yeah, I am. And so scare her. 53:27 Yeah. 53:29 Yeah. Should message her. Should message her right now. She's pretty upset. No. No, I'm going to go see her. I've got to do this face to face. Dumb to come with? 53:39 Yeah, that might be good, actually. 53:40 Yeah, OK. 53:41 But, you know, be prepared. For what? She might not forgive you. 53:50 Hello. Did you want to see me? Yeah, come in. Come in, Freddie. Sit down. 53:56 What's up? Everything OK? Freddie. 53:59 Yes. 54:00 I've been thinking about you. 54:02 That sounds a bit scary. Does it? Yeah, you know, a bit mafia boss. Sorry? I'm joking. 54:09 Oh, right. 54:10 I've just been thinking maybe I should talk to you a bit more about this job you applied for. 54:14 Oh, look, I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry I didn't tell you about it. 54:18 That's OK, that's fine. 54:20 You sure? 54:20 Yeah, I get it, I do. You need to think about your future. Well, yeah... 54:24 And I mean, I didn't tell you because, well, obviously I didn't know if I was going to get the job. Sure. And it turned out I didn't even get an interview, so... 54:31 But you understand why, don't you? Why you didn't get an interview. 54:34 I mean, yeah. 54:36 Maybe. It's a huge task, Harry Corr, from everything your mother said. 54:40 Yeah, I know. I just think they could have given me an interview. Like, given me a chance. 54:47 Maybe they would have thought, do you know what? Let's give him a go. 54:52 But anyway, it doesn't matter. The trustees have decided I'm ready. Or nearly ready. Which is just fantastic. 54:59 It's made me feel so... Just so completely different. Like all my hard work and my striving to prove myself has all paid off. Yep, yep. And actually, I wanted to thank you, Vince, because... 55:11 I don't think, without this job, I don't think I'd be in this position. So, in a way, it's kind of down to you, really. I mean, I know I've worked really hard here and I've got your respect and everything, but if you hadn't given me the chance to prove myself, I'm not sure where I'd be right now. Freddie? 55:29 Yeah? OK, listen, I don't want you to take this the wrong way. What? Well, there's just some stuff I think we might need to work on to get you to that place. To what place? To the point of being ready to take over at Lower Loxley. What do you mean? I mean, I'd like to talk to you about your strengths, but also your weaknesses. OK. Well, your mother's talking about you taking over in a year or so. 55:52 Yeah, I know. It's great, isn't it? I mean, I've been waiting long enough. It's about time. It should have happened years ago. 55:59 Well, listen, I just think that... We've got a year. You and me. If you're sticking with us. Oh, of course I am. Of course I'm sticking with you. So in that time, in the next year, we could really move you on. Because there's always more you could learn, isn't there? Oh, yeah, yeah. I know that. Yeah, and I think your mother would agree with me. 56:17 About what? That you've still got stuff to learn. 56:22 What did she say? 56:25 Nothing. Nothing. 56:26 Vince. 56:27 We were just, you know, talking it through. Talking me through? We were... She... What? What did she say? She didn't say anything. I don't believe you, Vince. 56:37 Hi, Ciara. 56:45 Hi, Henry. 56:46 Ciara. 56:48 Why are you here? 56:49 Galeel wants to tell you that he's sorry and he's such an idiot. No, that's not what I was going to say. Well, then it's what I wanted to say. 56:56 I got the wrong idea. Okay? 56:58 About what? 56:59 I thought you told Henry that I had cancer when I was a kid. 57:02 Oh. 57:03 But he just told me that he found out from an old photo. Online. 57:07 Oh. 57:07 I'm sorry. 57:09 Why didn't you just talk to me about it? 57:10 Because I was just so mad with you. 57:13 This could have been sorted out in about 20 seconds. 57:16 I'm really sorry. 57:17 Is that really who you think I am? No. Well, I mean, it obviously is. 57:20 No, I made a mistake, that's all. 57:22 No, you blowned me for two whole days. And I didn't know why, and it was really horrible. 57:27 Kira, I'm so sorry. 57:30 Will you come to the wedding now? 57:32 No. 57:32 Please. 57:33 I've gone off the idea. 57:34 Why? 57:35 One, because you two were so miserable about it. And if you're not even going to dance or, like, embrace the moment, then what's the point? And two, because I haven't forgiven you yet, Khalil. 57:46 Well, I don't know what I can do to make it all right, then. I mean, I've said sorry. What more can I do? 57:51 You can pick apples. Sorry? My grandpa wants two wheelbarrow loads of apples picked. 57:56 OK. 57:57 I can do that. Yeah, and I can help. 57:59 No, no, no. Khalil's got to do it on his own. 58:02 What? So we just stand and watch him? 58:04 Yeah. Yeah. 58:05 That doesn't seem very fair. 58:06 He wasn't very fair on me. 58:07 How was I supposed to know that Henry had found a photo online? 58:10 By asking me? Or asking him? 58:13 Yeah. 58:14 I would never, ever do that to you. 58:17 I'm a really loyal, trustworthy person. 58:20 Okay. 58:21 Okay. Is that it then? 58:24 Can we help him pick up the apples then? 58:28 I suppose so. 58:29 Okay, come on then. Let's get on with it. There's loads right here. 58:36 Is this going to be yours one day? 58:38 Is what going to be mine? 58:40 This orchard. 58:41 Well, it doesn't belong to me. 58:43 Yeah, it's more like a community orchard, isn't it? 58:45 Yeah. We don't own anything apart from one tiny field. 58:49 What about Green's Farm? 58:51 Belongs to Oliver. 58:52 But would you want to take it over one day? Like, if you could? 58:55 Well, I don't know. 58:57 Yeah. 58:58 Maybe. Maybe. Well, I don't know if I want to be a farmer or not. 59:02 Yeah, it's pretty stressful. Look at my family working all hours. 59:06 And hard to make money. 59:07 And it's going to get more and more challenging with climate change and everything. 59:11 That's true. Even so, I think I'd like to be a farmer. 59:14 I don't know. 59:16 But I'd like the option, I suppose. 59:18 Me too, actually. To farm, I mean. Farming is in my blood. My family in the Punjab, we're all farmers. 59:24 Really? 59:25 Yeah. Maybe. 59:27 Maybe. I think so, yeah. 59:30 So, what about the wedding? 59:32 What about the wedding? 59:33 Are you going to come? 59:35 Don't know. 59:35 Oh, please, I won't be the same without you. 59:41 So what you're basically saying is that you don't believe in me and my mother doesn't either. Hardly. Well, that's how it sounds. Well, then you weren't listening. Oh, well, that's one of my many flaws, apparently. For goodness sake, Freddie. I thought you really rated me. I do really rate you. I don't think you do. In fact, I think you only employed me to get into my mother's... 60:01 Good books. Oh, hang on a minute. It's true, though, isn't it? Of course not. As if I'd employ anyone on that kind of basis. Pah. 60:08 Freddie, this is nonsense. I've been waiting my entire life to take over Lower Locksley. 60:14 I know, I know you have. 60:15 I've had to prove myself over and over since all the prison stuff. I know. And when my mums of the trustees were... 60:23 I thought I was getting somewhere. You are. No, but I'm not, though, am I? 60:27 Because you don't think I'm any good. Oh, this is ridiculous. How many more times have I got to say the same thing? I do rate you. Your mother rates you, too. But you've still got a lot to learn. And you've got to be willing to learn, Freddie. I am. But this entire conversation proves you're not. Oh, well, thanks a lot. Freddie. 60:45 I'd better get back to work. Otherwise, the boss will say I'm slacking. 60:48 Oh, for goodness sake. 60:51 Ah, well done, Vince. Great work. 61:00 Vince, have you seen my keys? 61:02 On the counter behind the oat milk. 61:04 Oh, thanks. 61:06 What have you got on this morning? 61:07 Oh, I'm meeting Pip and Stella in the laundry to talk about how to stop their wedding being a total washout. 61:13 Oh, good luck with that. Did you hear the forecast on the radio this morning? 61:17 No, but my app is sending me hourly updates. 61:20 You know, I was going to have the team put up the covered walkway in the courtyard this morning, but I don't want to risk it if the wind is going to be as bad as they're saying. 61:27 Lots of mops, buckets and disposable plastic headscarves. 61:32 Do you remember those? Mum used to have one in a handbag at all times. 61:36 Yeah, my mum too. If the meat industry goes down the pan, I'll get into the business of reviving plastic headscarves. Flash floods, torrential rain, no problem. Casey will keep your blue rinse dry. 61:47 Whatever happened to the blue rinse? 61:49 Do you want to share the joke? 61:54 You're too young, you wouldn't understand. 61:56 Too young, that's becoming quite the mantra. 61:59 Morning, Freddie. 62:00 Did you see the list I put up on the group chat? 62:02 Yeah. 62:03 Well, if you could sort the room for photos, that would be amazing. 62:06 Fine. Do you want me to do that first or fetch the wine from the cellar? 62:10 I've got a couple of calls to make and then I can help you with the wine. 62:13 Oh, sounds good. 62:15 Thanks, both of you, for taking time off to help. 62:18 My pleasure. 62:20 If we're going to pull this off on Sunday, we'll need all hands on deck. 62:23 Freddie, I'll come and find you as soon as my meeting finishes. 62:27 Does he think I can't be trusted with a few crates of wine? Maybe he's worried I'm too feeble, the silver spoon boy. 62:33 He's just keen to muck in, help with the family wedding. 62:36 OK. Rose-coloured spectacles. 62:39 What? Nothing. It's not nothing. What do you mean? 62:41 It's just possible Vince isn't always the man with the heart of gold. You know, you only get to see one side of him. 62:50 Just a second, Miss Pip. Hi, how are the brides-to-be? 62:53 Excellent. 62:57 Oh, great. Well, I'll be there in two secs. 62:59 All right. See you soon. 63:02 Now, what's this about Vince? It's nothing. 63:03 Look, you go. Pip and Stella are waiting for you. No, Freddie... Really, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said anything. It's just that I often feel stupid and useless enough without Vince's help. 63:17 I think I'm finished with work too. I've turned on my out of office on every device I can think of. Oh, we're never asked. How did it go yesterday? Was it the big future farming meeting? Yeah. Yeah, we spent the afternoon discussing hemp. Oh, really? It's pretty fascinating. Oh, I don't believe you. 63:35 How its roots reach down more than a metre. Look, if you're not talking about champagne, chocolates or sourcing umbrellas, I don't want to hear it. 63:43 It's so versatile. It copes really well in hot weather. You can cook with hemp, build with it. But this is serious, Stella. 63:50 Our marriage depends on it. Shut hemp and flax and everything else you love about work in a box in your head marked after the honeymoon. 63:57 Don't worry. I spent most of yesterday afternoon putting things in place so that no one would need to contact me. Though it took longer than it should, with Mum ringing me every half hour to update me on her packing, and then checking if I got something borrowed, something blue. And have you? 64:12 I'm going to borrow Leonard's handkerchief, and I thought this bruise would do for something blue. Ooh, it's getting worse. That's what I get for playing Twister with your daughter. 64:21 Sorry. 64:23 Any more clues from her about how we're travelling to our wedding? No. 64:27 I've never known her to keep one secret in her life and now she's suddenly Fort Knox. 64:33 By the way, have you and Dad practised your walk down the aisle yet? I mean, are you blinking arms or a three-legged race? 64:40 Yeah, about that. Maybe I was too quick to reject my poor brother for the job. 64:45 Really? 64:46 Dad will be gutted if you suck him now. Not sure he will. I know he will. He was so touched you'd thought of him. 64:53 Yeah, but that was before Wednesday. We, um... 64:57 Oh, we kind of had words. What? We fell out a bit. You and Dad? Yeah. 65:04 In the bull car park. About Josh. 65:07 Well, he didn't say anything to me. And why didn't you say anything? Well, because I thought it might be nothing. 65:13 I just got a bit overheated about how selfish Josh is being. Dad agrees with you. I know, I know. But I guess it's not great hearing it from someone else in public. So... 65:25 What, you two aren't talking? How bad is it? I don't know. 65:29 I said I was sorry. I mean, I felt awful. 65:34 But I was hoping he might have put it behind him and moved on. 65:37 Great. 65:39 Oh, I can't believe it. No, Josh. And now you and Dad have fallen out. 65:42 Morning. 65:43 Morning. Morning. 65:45 There's nothing more lovely than a brace of brides. 65:48 A brace of brides worried about being soaked to the skin in our lakeside photos if the storm is as bad as forecast. No, don't worry. 65:54 Freddie's on the case. We're setting up an area for indoor photos. Oh, great. That was on our list to ask about. I promise you, the photos will still be gorgeous whatever the weather. Mm-mm. 66:08 Freddie, excuse the voice note, but needs must. 66:10 And I'm sorry I haven't been much help this morning yet, or any help at all. My meeting went on for longer than I thought it would. I've been up to me neck in supermarket contracts. They're all playing hardball, rising costs and falling demand. You know, customers turning away from eating meat. 66:28 But there's two in the West Midlands who are being really tricky right now, and we're going to have to put in some real hard graft to convince them to stay with us. 66:38 And you're just the man for the job. 66:40 I need you to do some schmoozing. 66:44 I could tell you were feeling a bit low after our chat yesterday, but this is exactly the kind of thing you could take ownership of to prove yourself. 66:52 We can talk about it properly when we're back at work on Monday, but have a think. 66:59 Does that sound okay? It sounds wonderful. 67:01 And if all the mops, buckets, umbrellas and fluffy towels don't keep the storm from the dance floor, we'll just have to try and beat it. Go wild. Start roaring at the sky. 67:10 We're losing it, Elizabeth, and we've still got 48 hours to get through. 67:14 You're not losing it. You two are a tour de force. The wedding will be fabulous and you'll be the farming power couple of Borset Show. 67:22 Oh, there's Freddie. I need to have a word with him. 67:25 Freddie? We'll leave you to it. Thanks for putting our minds at rest, Elizabeth. We're off to the ball for a steak and a glass of red wine. 67:31 Oh, that sounds like a good plan. 67:32 Yes, not often we've got no cows to milk and no fields to manage. That could be our 25th anniversary before we get another day off. Hello. Hi, Freddie. 67:40 Oh, are you two just leaving? 67:42 Yeah, still loads to do. 67:43 See you on Sunday. Bye. See you. Bye. 67:47 Freddie, I'm glad you're here. Will you come and sit down? 67:49 No, look, it's OK. Can we just forget what I said earlier, really? You've got enough on your plate without worrying about me. 67:54 Look, worrying about you is what's going to stop me doing what I need to do. Now, come on. Tell me what's going on. 67:59 Look, I've brought up the wine from the cellar. I've spoken to the kitchen about the nut allergy. 68:04 Freddie, you know what I mean. What's going on with you? 68:10 Um, OK. Um... Vince had a chat with me at work yesterday. He thought I needed to hear some home truths. 68:20 Right. 68:21 Well, you know, Vince, he has that blunt kind of charm. It's easy to hear as well-meaning advice as a criticism. 68:28 Yes, I know that. I work with him every day. 68:32 But it's more what he said about you. 68:37 What did he say about me? 68:38 Well, basically that you don't trust me to run lower locksley. 68:43 Oh, for goodness sake. 68:45 But how on earth did he give you that impression? Well, it wasn't an impression, Mum. Like you say, he doesn't mince his words. He told me all about your concerns that you think I'm lacking. 68:55 That's not what I said. 68:56 But it was along those lines, wasn't it? 68:59 All this time, I thought it was the trustees standing in my way. That's pretty embarrassing for me, Mum. 69:07 Thinking that you were on my side... 69:09 But the truth's out now. 69:11 It's much more complicated than that. I am on your side. How? 69:17 I think you could do a fantastic job managing the estate, but it won't hurt to keep learning, keep working on the skills you need. 69:26 It's a massive responsibility. It puts all our futures in your hands. 69:30 OK, so if it was Lily inheriting, would you be panicking? Whispering with Vince about how she would cope? Yes. 69:39 You wouldn't? 69:41 We've got used to having people with a huge wealth of experience. The trustees are measured, informed, sometimes infuriating, but never impulsive. 69:51 Whereas I'd probably sell off the family silver and travel around in a hot air balloon, wouldn't I say? 69:58 Sorry, look, Freddie, I have to get this. It's fine. No, wait, though. No, there's nothing more to say. 70:01 Don't just walk off. To be honest, I'm glad Vince had that talk with me. It's better that I know the truth. 70:10 So, what do you want me to do? I'll do whatever will make things OK for you. 70:14 I don't know what to do. 70:15 I can ask my brother. I can beg your dad to forgive me. No, no, you shouldn't have to do that. 70:20 Well, I might have to make a decision pretty quickly. He's heading our way. Who? Dad? 70:24 Yep. 70:25 Do I do? Do I let on that I know or act as if you've said nothing? Or maybe we could all just pretend it never happened. Sounds like a healthy way to deal with it. Here we go. 70:31 Oh, hi, Dad. Morning, love. Hiya. Um, Stella. 70:37 Have you got a minute? 70:41 Vince. 70:42 Hang on a minute. I'm busy. 70:44 You told Freddy I didn't trust him. 70:46 Eh? 70:48 You knew I was going to have a word with him about up in his game. 70:51 I didn't agree to you telling him that I have my doubts. I told you that in confidence. 70:56 What kind of idiot would think it was OK to use that to motivate a boy who's already struggling with low self-esteem? 71:02 Hang on a minute. 71:04 Firstly, Freddie is not a boy. He's a young man about to inherit an estate. 71:10 And secondly, we agreed he has work to do. 71:12 Yeah, I didn't agree to you telling him what I said. 71:16 And I didn't agree to be the fall guy... 71:19 It's not fair if you expect me to give him the stark truth while you pat his head, whispering to him how perfect he is and how I'm the mean one. 71:27 No, you're just being ridiculous. 71:28 Am I? I was happy to tell him straight and more than happy to work with him to get him where he needs to be. More management responsibilities, financial training, forward planning. 71:40 You have to support me. I'm not about knocking him down. I'm about boosting his confidence through working hard and achieving goals. 71:50 I've got to go. The table linen's arrived. 71:53 So, is that it? I get a slap on the wrist for actually saying what we both agreed to say? 71:57 He's my son, Vince, and it's possible your hard man tactics aren't the only way of getting him to where he needs to be. 72:04 Well, fine. Just don't come crying to me next time you're worried about the future of your entire livelihood. 72:10 Don't worry. 72:11 I won't. 72:14 I like Josh. No, I really do. I'm gutted he won't be part of the wedding on Sunday. I mean, he might be all those things I said about him, but he's also funny and smart and cheeky. It's the unpredictable in him that makes people want to be with him. That makes him choose staying with some girl over coming to his sister's wedding. 72:32 I appreciate everything you're saying. And I'm not here to get an apology from you. 72:36 Good, because you said sorry on Wednesday. 72:38 I know. And I should have come to find you yesterday. And I realise I've been 72:45 A pompous hypocrite. 72:49 Well, a hypocrite sounds about right. 72:52 I got annoyed with you, Stella, because everything you said was true. 72:56 And I'm sorry. 72:57 Thanks. That's fine. It's all good. 73:00 So, um, have I burnt my bridges? 73:05 I mean, is there any way you'd still agree to... What I'm trying to say is, can I still walk you down the aisle? 73:12 Of course you can! 73:36 Thank you. 74:05 Could you talk about being invisible or double denim? Who knows what's next on the new series of Just a Minute. 74:11 Belting out a rendition of... 74:17 Whatever the topic, our panel has just a minute to speak without hesitation, deviation or repetition. 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